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Staff meeting 10am

Songs being sung this Sunday July 3rd:
America, the Beautiful
God of Our Fathers
Patriotic Medley
My Country, Tis of Thee
Battle Hymn of the Republic

Also it is communion sunday

Also my students will be in church instead of leaving to go to sunday school

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

and I sat there and didn’t really say anything

but I guess you have to pick your battles

I’m luck enough to have my students be allowed to read scripture as part of the service. Though instead of 2 Cor 12:13-13:12, it’s getting shortened, because they don’t want the kids to have to read for so long. But it’s ok for you (pastor) to read that long!!!!!

I’m sure this post will get me fired. But it’s my blog and I can say whatever I want.

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clean

A thought struck me today. I started (well have been and it came up again) thinking about when Jesus clears the temple.

See
Matthew 21:12-17
Mark 11:15-18
Luke 19:45-48

Are we ever called to do this? Would it be right in today’s world? If we are to emulate Christ, then isn’t this part of working to maintain a healthy church? Or is this reserved only for the Son of Man?

As a side note:
Continuing to think about anger, even as a good thing.
Brian McLaren said (from Emergent 05) “One of the things anger tells us is that there is deep passion. You don’t get angry about things you don’t care about.”
I think this statement sums up why it may be perceived that I am “angry” at the church. Though in my mind, I care and love and am passionate about church, which for me boils down to frustration.

Please focus more on the upper statement if you are going to respond. The bottom statement is more informative and to put the upper statement in context.

cohorting

I’m glad to announce the beginnings of a Southern California Emergent Cohort.

I just found about this a few days ago, and it has been something that I’ve been hoping would happen for a while.

I wrote a post called “wrong doings” about it. Well that was the thought…I digressed, oh well.

Check out http://emergentsocal.blogspot.com for more info. And stay tuned for more info about meetings and such. If you care about the church and where it’s going then here’s your invitation to join when we meet.

Feel free to post here or there with questions, concerns, contact info, etc.

crunchwrapsupreme (2)

I had another one today. See here for previous post.

This time I added beans and guac.

Yummy.

lucid

I want to clear a few things up. Lately I’ve seemed to create a number of comments. Some concern, some affirmation.

Here are a few statements about this blog.

Most of what I write is me thinking out loud.

I hope the outcome of what I write is discussion. (that’s what the comments are for)

You are free to disagree with anything I write.

I try not to feel obligated to write a defense when people disagree.

If you first disagree with what I say, please take the time to re-read the post carefully.

Ask for further explanation if things seem confusing.

I do not represent Emergent in any official capacity.

I love the Church with all my heart. My love is what fuels most of my writing. Please do not think that I am “out to get” the church.

I am at a point in my life where I am questioning my theology, and “conventional theology”. Or, stated another way, I am asking questions about the way we do church.

I do not have all the answers. I probably don’t even have a few answers.

Thank you for reading.

be more ghetto

Go Ghetto Blog

A-type or B-type

Matt left a comment on the post Molding. Read his comment and then it’ll explain a little where I’m going on this one.

I think my argument for less of me, comes from the oversaturated world of dominant personalities running churches.

I don’t want to become a personality, I don’t want my ministry to be dependent on me.

If I leave I want things to continue, not because of me, but because I have instilled the right values and standards in those I minister to.

Jesus’ ministry lasted on and on because of who he was. Although I don’t feel that while he was doing ministry it was about HIM. Well it was, but in the true way ministry should be. He should be the personality that we are following.

I cannot model the same ministry that Christ did, because I am not Christ. So the best I can do is move out of the way and let Christ be the center of my ministry.

Yes, I need to be filled with authority, I need to be a leader. But I need to make sure that I don’t become the ministry.

But I what we don’t need is a constant barrage of people who say I go to so and so’s church. Or you should come to my church because of Pastor _______. Christ should draw people not us. Yes, we can be what helps draw people to Christ, but we are called to be used by Christ for his purposes.

So I stand by my statement less of me. With the hope that now I have more fully explained where I am coming from.

ghetto again

New Ghetto Blog

molding

If you have been following for any length of time then you will know that I am a Director of Youth Ministry at a church.

I have the unique opportunity to do something that I’ve never done in ministry before. I have before me the task of starting a Youth Program. I deliberately didn’t use the title “Youth Group” for the reason that I feel my ministry is moving in a direction that moves past “program/group” status.

Herein lies the greatest challenge. I have a great desire to move towards a model of teaching and experience that doesn’t conform to the typical format of “Youth Group”.

I have the ability to do anything I want when it comes to starting my program. ANYTHING.

I’ll admit, I’m totally scared.

I’ve never done this. And for someone who talks and talks about wanting to be given the opportunity to do things differently, I’m lost for words or ideas.

Well maybe not totally lost, but apprehensive. Indecisive.

I think I may be putting off making decisions, 1 for not knowing totally knowing what I’m doing and 2 (most importantly) that I want to take the intentional time to think through thoroughly about what it is I’m going to be doing.

I think I’ve started in the right direction, since much of my ministry over the last 3 months has been building a foundation for ministry, built on relationships. I do not want my ministry to be built on program.

I want the opportunity for my students to experience God without the distraction of “church”. I want to create a meaningful place for worship, with less of me. Less of me talking and more of them doing. More of them knowing Christ.

It’s different. It’s not what I’m used to. I’m not even sure how to evaluate myself in the coming months as I start to implement these ideas.

How do I actively “teach’ without having to say too much?

I’m thankful for meeting Lilly Lewin at Emergent, she has given me much to think about in terms of providing students with “experiential worship”. I’m excited to read Dan Kimball’s book when it comes out called, “They like Jesus, but not the Church” (outdated link, but you get the jist) as well as hopefully get some more face time with him in the near future. (Dan if you read this let’s get together at NYWC in Sacramento)

As I (we) enter a new paradigm of how church can be done, it has always been in the back of my head that Youth Ministry can be a catalyst of change in how we “do” church. Students, especially, desire for ways to connect with God, that is more than sitting and listening. They have the need to participate in how God is working. Worship is the perfect place for people to come, experience joy, experience hurt, experience forgiveness. Often times, for them and me, it is increasingly hard to experience God if we are not allowed to question, discuss, and move during our worship experience.

Where does this leave me…probably no where closer to knowing what I actually want to do. But it does at least put myself out there. Help me. Be my community. Be iron, let us sharpen one another. Challenge me. Ask questions, force me to flush out these ideas and ideals. One way or another we’ll see what happens come fall.

Continue to keep my ministry in your prayers.

Don’t forget about the prayer requests on the left. I desire to pray for all of you as well.

vacation

I’ve been thinking, as I usually do and I’ve come to a conclusion.

short term mission = Christian vacation

The argument that I’m about to make comes from the desire for resources to be used more responsibly. Not that I’m saying that good doesn’t come from people going to foreign places, please don’t think that I don’t think that good is accomplished by these missions.

Let me start with stating where this whole argument starts.

Basically I’ve become more aware of how sin works in our lives. Sin is good at taking things that are good and slightly altering them to serve alternative purposes. Not that these things aren’t still good, but when they become altered they then lose the ability to fully be used for their greatest good.

A really bad example.

Take icecream. By its self = good. Then take something like bar-b-q sauce and put some on top. It messes it up. Yes it is still good underneath, but not quite as good if you hadn’t slightly altered it at all.

Sin works really well because we soon to live with the fact that our icecream is slightly messed up but we learn to live with it. Sin uses the fact that we don’t get upset that what we are doing is no longer pure. We lose the desire to go back to what we know as truly good.

I am very tired of putting up with lesser good. I am tired of letting sin convince me that 2nd best is ok.

Back to missions.

I have developed a problem with short term (1 week to a month) missions, over the last few months.

Over and over I hear of churches planning “mission trips” to far off places, like Africa, South America, Asia and other 3rd world nations, in the name of “doing good”. These trips often focus on providing a service, ie building something, doing “service” or evangelism, etc., for part of the week then taking 2-3 days to “sight-see”. Very few of the trips focus entirely on service. Yet even when service is involved, it is mostly for the participants instead of the focus being on others. A prime example of the ego-centric trips would be the “mexico house building” trips. But that’s a whole separate post.

The other part of these trips that bother me is the cost. 3000-7000 depending on where and how long you go. THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!!!!! x 5-10 participants = either 15,000 or 30,000 dollars. Imagine how far that money would go if it was merely sent to the place where people were going and the local people, who know how to build things and how to run programs, used that money themselves!!!!!! Not only would there be less arrogant Americans there thinking that they are doing tremendous amounts of good, but those people in the places would be able to spread the money so much further because many of these nations do not have to pay what it costs for us to do the work here. Example: Bricks, mortar and wood for a church – American (made up figure) $20,000 the same materials in a 3rd world nation (once again made up) $1,000. I think it is clear how much further that money would go in a 3rd world nation, instead of using most of our “mission” money for travel to and then “sight-seeing”.

The time has come for churches to stop the spread of “Christian Vacation” trips with the added bonus of “doing good for God”.

What these missions boil down to is a Christian Vacation. We have let good become slightly perverted and then we try and justify ourselves by saying that we are doing good.

This happens over and over in our Christian lives. Think about new doors on a church or a renovation of a garden area. How much of our church budgets or special donations go towards improvements instead of ministry?

Your new _______ at your church costing _______. Think about if that money could have been poured into youth ministry or children’s ministry. How many more lives could have been touched than building ________?

What would be even better is people recognizing that there are plenty of needs in our own community. Pour your 3000 dollars into a local mission or food bank. Spend a week in a shelter with people with no homes and little or no money. Think of someone other than yourself. I mean that last sentence in the terms of the fact that Satan convinces us that by us going somewhere we are doing something good, that we are thinking of the “other”, but in all actuality we are thinking most of all about “me”.

Take a stand and make your voice heard. I want churches to “do ministry”. Put your resources where they are needed most. Pay youth workers. Invest money in things that we have not let sin take a hold of. Do not let yourself be fooled into thinking that because good can come of something, that it is the best good that can come.

Sin is very, very good at turning truth into false good. Do not be duped by the falsehood into thinking that just because there is good in what we do that we are doing the best good. Seek what is true and pure.

Combat the lies that Satan tells us that we are doing good. Go on vacation, but if you serve, serve with love and in truth. Allow God to motivate you to his work.



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